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6:20 am
May 1, 2012


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NFLLIFER said:

Cam… I thought your top 7 was set in stone prior to the draft. It hasn't changed for me

Rivers, MJD, CJ, S.Smith, Nicks, Brown, and Hernandez.

Yeah ?  going back and forth ?   Keeping Daniel Thomas or Antonio Brown ??   Today Im leaning toward Brown again …  going to be interesting …..          CB 

2024 !  Here we fucking go again ! LOL

7:43 am
May 1, 2012


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Camarillo Brillo said:

NFLLIFER said:

Cam… I thought your top 7 was set in stone prior to the draft. It hasn't changed for me

Rivers, MJD, CJ, S.Smith, Nicks, Brown, and Hernandez.

Yeah ?  going back and forth ?   Keeping Daniel Thomas or Antonio Brown ??   Today Im leaning toward Brown again …  going to be interesting …..          CB 

i'd keep brown over smitty

7:49 am
May 1, 2012


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ShanePHallam said:

FTRWRTR said:

LOL, when will ppl learn to stop falling for the hype that is the virigina tech rb

 

Also ryan tanneyhill reminds me of christian ponder, good college qbs but I don't expect much from them as a pro qb.

 

shane – I like hillman's talent but his situation isn't as great as you think.  He's 5'9 200lbs and runs a 4.43/40 which is all fine but last year the broncoes picked up mario fannin as an undrafted free agent and he's 5'10 235lbs and runs a 4.37/40. 

So an undrafted FA from last year will beat him out?  I'm not a Hillman fan, but that is pretty ridic.

there WAS quite a bit of buzz about Fannin before i left the mountain states last fall, but the Shanny yrs made Broncdom very buzzy about RBs by habit. whoknows?!

9:16 am
May 1, 2012


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ShanePHallam said:

So an undrafted FA from last year will beat him out?  I'm not a Hillman fan, but that is pretty ridic.

Ridiculous like how an undrafted rb that hou took beating out there IIRC third round pick in the form of Ben Tate? I guess that explains why no one in my dynasty league bothered to draft arian foster and I was able to get him in FA for only $1.

9:17 am
May 1, 2012


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apernesky said:

Pornwriter every year you do this.  You say player X is this big & runs this fast … so he should be able to do THE FAULK… when will you learn that size & Speed are not the only two pieces to your math problem… if so HUZZYAMOMA husain would have a huge contract…

 

Hey if you want to believe that the smaller, slower rbs are better…go for it.

5:40 am
May 2, 2012


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FTRWRTR said:

ShanePHallam said:

So an undrafted FA from last year will beat him out?  I'm not a Hillman fan, but that is pretty ridic.

Ridiculous like how an undrafted rb that hou took beating out there IIRC third round pick in the form of Ben Tate? I guess that explains why no one in my dynasty league bothered to draft arian foster and I was able to get him in FA for only $1.

You know as well as I do that is the exception not the rule.  Arian wasn't drafted due to injuries.  Fannin wasn't drafted because he wasn't very good.

9:26 am
May 2, 2012


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Furthermore, didn't Foster "beat out" Tate after Tate broke his ankle in preseason?

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9:27 am
May 2, 2012


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GBinSB4ever said:

Furthermore, didn't Foster "beat out" Tate after Tate broke his ankle in preseason?

Exactly.

 

Heck, Fannin couldn't even beat out Lance Ball last season.

10:15 am
May 2, 2012


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LOL, ok.

3:05 pm
May 2, 2012


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If speed and size made all pro RB's I think Vernon Gholston would have been a 4 time all pro RB by now.

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

9:54 am
May 3, 2012


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Post edited 9:58 am – May 3, 2012 by FTRWRTR


NFLLIFER said:

If speed and size made all pro RB's I think Vernon Gholston would have been a 4 time all pro RB by now.

 

It would probably also help if there was a rb named vernon gholston playing in the nfl.

 

It's interesting that so many ppl just assume I named mario fannin only  because of his size and speed.

8:37 am
May 4, 2012


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FTRWRTR said:

NFLLIFER said:

If speed and size made all pro RB's I think Vernon Gholston would have been a 4 time all pro RB by now.

 

It would probably also help if there was a rb named vernon gholston playing in the nfl.

 

It's interesting that so many ppl just assume I named mario fannin only  because of his size and speed.

I didn't think a guy had to play RB to be a great RB based on the size/ speed analysis. Why would we not assume you named Fannin for these reasons? You listed two RB's and their size / speed. No mention of anything else. No mention of fumbles, yards, blitz pick up.

Not saying Fannin can't do these things as he caught the ball great in college. You just didn't mention anything like this, and defended your comment by saying to go ahead and believe smaller slower RB's are better. In reality they can be better, and they can be worse. LT and Holmes were beasts for years. Neither was big, or extremely fast. M.Faulk fits that mold also. Jacobs has probably been one of the biggest backs and did run a 4.51. 

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

2:48 pm
May 4, 2012


FTRWRTR

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Post edited 2:54 pm – May 4, 2012 by FTRWRTR


NFLLIFER said:

FTRWRTR said:

NFLLIFER said:

If speed and size made all pro RB's I think Vernon Gholston would have been a 4 time all pro RB by now.

It would probably also help if there was a rb named vernon gholston playing in the nfl.

It's interesting that so many ppl just assume I named mario fannin only  because of his size and speed.

I didn't think a guy had to play RB to be a great RB based on the size/ speed analysis. Why would we not assume you named Fannin for these reasons? You listed two RB's and their size / speed. No mention of anything else. No mention of fumbles, yards, blitz pick up.

Not saying Fannin can't do these things as he caught the ball great in college. You just didn't mention anything like this, and defended your comment by saying to go ahead and believe smaller slower RB's are better. In reality they can be better, and they can be worse. LT and Holmes were beasts for years. Neither was big, or extremely fast. M.Faulk fits that mold also. Jacobs has probably been one of the biggest backs and did run a 4.51. 

I know I compared their size and speeds and I do think that will be a factor, my post said it's interesting that ppl think that's the only reason I mentioned fannin.  Also I don't think ppl read my original post.  I wasn't critizing hillman , in fact I mentioned that I like his talent.  Nor did I say that fannin was the better rb.  My post to shane was that I don't see denver being as great an opportunity as he does because it's not as if their isn't someone there who doesn't have the size and speed that hillman has.   

10:12 am
May 5, 2012


NFLLIFER

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FTRWRTR said:

NFLLIFER said:

FTRWRTR said:

NFLLIFER said:

If speed and size made all pro RB's I think Vernon Gholston would have been a 4 time all pro RB by now.

It would probably also help if there was a rb named vernon gholston playing in the nfl.

It's interesting that so many ppl just assume I named mario fannin only  because of his size and speed.

I didn't think a guy had to play RB to be a great RB based on the size/ speed analysis. Why would we not assume you named Fannin for these reasons? You listed two RB's and their size / speed. No mention of anything else. No mention of fumbles, yards, blitz pick up.

Not saying Fannin can't do these things as he caught the ball great in college. You just didn't mention anything like this, and defended your comment by saying to go ahead and believe smaller slower RB's are better. In reality they can be better, and they can be worse. LT and Holmes were beasts for years. Neither was big, or extremely fast. M.Faulk fits that mold also. Jacobs has probably been one of the biggest backs and did run a 4.51. 

I know I compared their size and speeds and I do think that will be a factor, my post said it's interesting that ppl think that's the only reason I mentioned fannin.  Also I don't think ppl read my original post.  I wasn't critizing hillman , in fact I mentioned that I like his talent.  Nor did I say that fannin was the better rb.  My post to shane was that I don't see denver being as great an opportunity as he does because it's not as if their isn't someone there who doesn't have the size and speed that hillman has…. 

LOL Classic post! You think it's interesting that people think you only mentioned Fannin for size and speed… yet its the only thing you mentioned. Perhaps you're expecting us to have the same fictitious male mind reader that females think we have. I really like how you finish your post once again comparing size and speed.

1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE

Eli, Roth

Alfred, Ridley,

Marshall, Cobb, Fitz, Garcon, Britt, DHB

Gronk, Olsen, Bennett

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